CoE weekly Rulings/Clarifications 9

1. If my opponent is Pallando and he sees Will Shaken in my discard pile as it is discarded face up, will he receive the -2 MPs?

*** No.  Will Shaken says, "If your opponent looks at cards from your hand ans sees Will Shaken...".  Your discard pile is not your hand.

2. If my opponent plays Desire All for thy Belly and draws Will Shaken, will he receive the -2 MPs?

*** No.  Again, Will Shaken only has its effect if it is seen from the opponent's hand.  A player's discard pile, deck, or back pocket is not their hand.

3. Am I right that Desire All for Thy Belly can put unique cards out of play?

*** Yes.  There is no limitation on the card that limits the card to be put out of play as unique or non-unique.

4. It is explicitly stated that if a manifestation of one card is in play, no other manifestations may be played (except for Dragons). Lady of the Golden Wood (Galadriel), Lord of the Carrock (Beorn), Lord of the Haven (Círdan) and Master of the House (Elrond) does not state that they get discarded if their character manifestations are put into play. Does this mean I cannot play these 4 characters anymore if any of their hazard manifestations are in play?

*** You are correct.

5. A character taps after playing Flatter a Foe, right? Am I right to assume that he taps because he made an influence check?

*** No.  You only tap to make influence checks on your factions or influencing away your opponent's item, ally, faction, or character.

6.  My company moves to a ruins and lairs, my opponent plays a cave drake on guard on the site.  I then declare that I want to explore the site and thus face any automatic attack. My question is when is my opponent allowed to declare the cave drake?  Can he wait until after I've faced the site or he must declare it before I actually face the site?

*** An on guard creature can only be revealed during the site phase when a company first enters/explores a site with an automatic attack.  The automatic attack is faced before the on guard creature.

7. All Ahunt manifestations of the dragons state that their attack is to be considered a Hazard Creature Attack.  Can Adunaphel (as my ringwraith) tap to cancel their attack or not?

*** Yes.

8. I have in my party an ally that cannot move to some regions (skinbark, treebeard, tom bombadil etc).  For some reasons I need to go outside of the allowed regions with my character, when is my ally discarded?  At the beginning or at the end of the movement/hazard phase?

*** If the text on the ally says "If he/she moves to", like most of the allies with restricted movement, then they are discarded at the beginning of the movement/hazard phase.  If the text on the ally says "If he/she is at", then they are discarded at the beginning of the site phase because you are not considered "at" a site that you have moved to that turn until the site phase.

9. Can Tom Bombadil tap to remove a corruption card that has been succesfully played on a character in his company, or any other company moving through the regions mentioned in the card?

***Yes.  This can be done on a corruption card that is played or has already been played on the target character.  Cards continuously target the cards they are played on.

10. After an agent has attacked a party at its site and, if not defeated, can the opposing party then attack the face-up agent?

*** No.

11.  Under CRF15, Rulings by term, Influence: A character removed from control of DI outside the org. phase does not need to be controlled by GI until that player's next org. phase.  Question: If the character need not be controlled by GI, then under what influence is he controlled?

*** The character is under GI (General Influence) but requires none of it to control him/her.

I had this scenario yesterday: Umagaur (9 mind) controls Bolg (7 mind) under DI and I had 3 Ill-favoured fellows (3 mind each) in play. I used up 18 points of GI (9 from  Umagaur & 3 each of the fellows), with an unused GI of 7 (2 + 5 for minion  players). Opponent plays 2 So You've come back on two of my fellows (gives +1 mind to all non-followers), a Rebel-talk on Bolg (can't be controlled by DI) and Shut Yer Mouth on Umagaur (-2 to Umagaur's DI).

*** Your questions below will be answered with the assumption that there is only one So You've Come Back on one of your Ill-favoured Fellows because it cannot be duplicated on a given company.

Questions: Is Bolg under GI immediately after Rebel-talk was played on him?  If he is, then I suppose my unused GI is still 5, as the +5 GI to minions can't be used to control characters, even if the total mind of all my players exceeded 20, right?  What if my opponent played a Call of Home? I suppose my unused GI  is still 5, right?

*** Bolg is under GI immediately but still does not take up any GI regardless of his mind increasing by one because of So You've Come Back. Umagaur(10 mind) and the two Ill-favoured Fellows(4+4=8 mind) without the So You've Come Back played on them have their mind increased by one and the last Fellow is still at (3 mind). Shut Yer Mouth on Umagaur has no effect on your GI at the moment. Thus, you're using all 20 of your GI. The one extra GI cannot be used from your +5 minion bonus to control characters The organization of your company's DI/GI problems do not have to be reconciled until your next organization phase. A Call of Home until then would yield you a +5 bonus to your roll.

12. Beorn and Glorfindel are on their way to Dol Guldor when they encounter Orc Guard. Normally, they only have to/are able to face 2 of the strikes, with the extra three becoming -1 modifiers.  If I play Many Foes He Fought, Skin-changer, or any other card that would allow one of them to face more strikes, does this mean that one of them may face both of the strikes, or that more of the 5 strikes are now able to be assigned? That is, do cards like these increase the assignable number of strikes, or just the way that the strikes may be assigned?

*** You must play your card(s) that allow your character to face multiple strikes before the strikes are assigned.  You would then move into the strike sequence where excess strikes, if any, are assigned as -1 prowess modifiers.

13. So, I'm a Fallen-wizard.  In play I have: - a unique 3-point minion faction (worth 1 point for a FW, duh) - Gatherer of Loyalties (so the faction gets me 2 points) - One Dear to You, on the faction One Dear to You: Playable on a faction you have in play.  -1 faction marshalling points.  Any influence attempt against the faction is modified by -8 and Muster may not be used against the faction. Is the -1 MP's from ODtY applied "before" or "after" my pointly penalties are applied?  That is, is it "free" for FW's if they are "losing" a point anyway?

*** Your marshalling point restriction to 1 point for your non-stage factions is applied for you being a fallen wizard, which is a permanent fact.  The intricacies lie in the order of application of the modifications of Gatherer of Loyalties and One Dear to you.  There are rules on the order of application of prowess/body bonuses when it comes to weapons and appropriate effects.  There are also rules regarding the order of application of effects at the start of a movement/hazard phase.  Neither of these apply to your situation. Thus, I would argue that they're your effects and you can apply them in the order you wish giving you 2 marshalling points in the final tally of your example.