From: Chad Martin <chad@t...> Date: Mon Jan 27, 2003 5:19 am Subject: [NetRep] Rulings Digest #47
Well, my intentions to put out digests while I was away from home failed utterly, and I haven't really picked up the pace since getting back. I hope to get back in line soon.
Also, I realize most of these questions have been answered by Wim, but I'm making sure they're in a digest and are stamped as official. If you feel I've missed a question, please point it out.
From Digest #46:
*** No Strangers at This Time prevents a tapped hero site from being removed from play by Heart Grown Cold.
Just so it is known to all, I'm not arguing with this ruling (this is in fact how we played it in the game). My opponent was just wondering as to the logic involved in this decision. Is there a ruling somewhere in the CRF dealing with this, or was my logic above sufficient?
*** The NetRep team is still in the process of sorting out the shades of grey on this one, though the ruling above is still considered valid. -------- I move with starter movement from Lindon to Numeriador. I believe both Lindon and Numeriador are available to play hazard creatures that target those regions, since both region names are there, on the site cards on the table. Right?
*** Essentially correct. -------- If I did use starter movement from Rivendell to Lorien, those High Pass or Redhorn Gate monsters can only see Rhudaur and Wold&Foothills. Right?
*** Correct. -------- I was wondering if agents can be used as starting characters in a minion deck?
*** Yes, by using the card Open to the Summons. -------- Say there happens to be a Snowstorm, and I move with Radagast. I may draw all the cards based on his planned route and all the wildernesses, though first one of the wildernesses actually sends whole company back where they started? Right?
*** Correct. In MECCG rules geek speak, Snowstorm is the first hazard effect declared in the movement/hazard phase, and is resolved at that time. Playing and resolving of hazard effects occurs after cards are drawn. -------- Does the bane of ithil stone effects affect both players ?
*** As long as neither player is minion, yes. -------- The automatics attacks at a shadow-hold are they detainment for minion company ?
*** All automatic attacks are detainment unless otherwise specified on the site card. -------- Bade to Rule. In the text show 2 cases at the 2nd case, if the ringwraith enters the game I put the card with him and If he move loses the card ?
*** Correct. -------- Can a Hero company attack a Covert company or only overt companys (and viceversa) ?
*** Hero companies can attack any minion company and vice versa. -------- To play a Permanent event at a site like a (news of the shire,or smoke on the wind ) should I enter the site ?, and when a site is tapped with this event only if the card says tap the site ?
*** To do anything at a site, you must enter the site and face all automatic attacks, and yes, events only tap the site if the event says it taps the site. -------- As long as I know I cant put in play a char with mind more than 6 not even with an Thrall-Ring, but what about stage resources that reduces the mind ?
*** It is not possible for a fallen-wizard to play a character of greater than 6 mind, assuming you're playing by Council of Lorien tournament rules. -------- If I draft OttS, TotV, and then Anarin, does OttS's effect actually come first and reduce Anarin's mind to 6 to allow TotV to work?
*** Travis Took dug this up:
In CoE Rulings/Clarifications 11, so ruled Brian "The -1 to mind does NOT allow a Fallen Wizard player to play a 6-mind person with Open to the Summons (the mind checking is done before the effect applies)." -------- Can I play Bade to Rule being Sauron ?
*** No. CRF, Rulings by Term, The Lidless Eye:
* Playing this card discards its player's Bade to Rule and prevents him from subsequently playing Bade to Rule.
This rule is essentially printed on the card Sauron from ME:BA. -------- In a company vs. company an ally count as character and make his attack, am I right ?
*** Unless otherwise prevented by the ally's card text, yes. -------- Thers is a rule preventing 2 leaders at the same site, so a friend of mine each turn declares a movement which leads one leader to the site that other leader is, so he can grab the cards and automatically returns to the site he was, is any rule that prevents this ? or something to stop this ?.
*** It has been ruled that any company that is returned to its site of origin must do nothing during its site phase. -------- If I play this faction with a leader in barad-dur, and 2 other factions each faction gives 2 extra MP or the 3 factions give extra 2MP
*** CRF, Rulings by Term, Leader: * Factions played with a leader are worth two extra MP per group of factions, not per faction. -------- Can a Fallen Wizard use both minion and hero ruins&lairs sites?
*** Yes, but not at the same time. -------- Can I Play events on sites that are on the table face down during org fase (are these sites in play?)
*** The sites are not considered in play, so no. -------- Especial object's MP are calculated at objects points or other ?
*** It depends on the shape that the marshalling point number is in. If it's a square, it's item points. If it's a diamond, it's miscellaneous points. -------- Suppose I have a company at Barad-dur, can the Ringwraith be revealed at this place ? and If possible should any company move in the M/H phase ?
Wim answered this correctly:
If the Ringwraith can normally be played there he can still be played there when there is a company. Yes, at least one of the two companies must move. If both are still there at the end of all M/H phases the non-ringwraith company is discarded. -------- If I have the RingWraith and a char at Minas Morgul and I want to move them to Dol Guldur, should I make 2 movent/hazard phases?
*** You cannot move them in the same company, and two companies cannot have the same destination site and site of origin, so they must move on separate turns. -------- If the Ringwraith is at a given place can I delclare Im moving to this place, and what happen if I do it should the company rebound like the 2 leaders thing.
*** CRF, Rulings by Phase, Movement/Hazard Phase, General: # If companies would join at the end of the movement/hazard phase such that the company composition rules are violated, one company of the hazard player's choice must return to its site of origin. -------- And if my company is at given place and my Ringwratih in a dark haven can my company and the RingWraith move to the same place ?
*** Not unless that place is a Darkhaven. -------- If I have a company in Moria and im moving to underdeeps can my opponent play a cave worm to the company keyed to the region ?
*** No, you're not moving through any region when you move to the under-deeps from a surface site. -------- Clarification on "Give Welcome to the Unexpected" - when it says "...normally worth 1 MP..." does that apply only to cards with a printed value of 1, or does it affect all cards that are reduced to being 1 MP by the FW penalty?
*** CRF, Rulings by Term, Normal: * Normal means as written on the card, not considering other card's effects.
I think that's it. I'll try to get things moving on a more steady pace for the future.
Chad Martin chad@t... Official Council of Elrond NetRep http://www.mdi.net/~chscable/elrond.htm Assisted by: Nigel Buckle, Wim Heemskerk and Travis Took