From: Chad Martin <chad@t...> Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 8:49 am Subject: [NetRep] Rulings Digest #46
Oh, my. It's been three weeks since the last digest, and the NetRep folder in my email program has grown quite large. Sorry about the delay. Let me know if I've missed any questions!
In regard to the legality of a defender using Elven Rings in CvCC, Travis Took mentioned the ruling that I made in Digest #25:
Narya/Nenya/Vilya may be played during opponents companies site phase in response to company vs. company combat. Increasing the prowess of a character facing the attack is considered affecting a strike, and therefore legal. All three Elven Rings increase the prowess of the targeted character.
This ruling is correct and stands as written. -------- Re: Legendary Hoard It's played on an at Home dragon. It states that the "target dragon's auto-attack cannot be cancelled." I'm assuming that this means the auto attack on the at Home dragon's card, and not the auto-attack at the associated site. Is this right?
*** Correct. -------- Re: Legendary Hoard If the Dragon is inverted, does that mean it no longer has any effect on play? Its special effect is gone and there's no longer an extra auto-attack at the site?
*** Consider the inverted dragon to be "off to the side." This card was written before putting cards off to the side became a rule. So, yes, the at Home dragon's effects are no longer in play. -------- Re: Legendary Hoard It says "if target Dragon is required to be discarded" - could I play L.H. on Daelomin at Home, then discard him to increase the hazard limit and simply have him inverted on the table? And then, after rotating L.H. by playing Daelomin Ahunt or the dragon himself, go in and loot a hoard for multiple items playable at the site after only facing the standard auto-attack of 2 @ 11 at Dancing Spires?
*** Yes, this is all a legal play. Note that a player is only allowed up to 3 items per game per copy of Legendary Hoard. -------- Do you have to enter the surface site and face automatic attacks before heading down, or can you camp outside the site and proceed directly to the Under-deeps site on the next turn?
*** You do not have to enter the surface site before going to an under-deeps site. -------- Bring our curses home/Foes shall fall can be played on a character whose company is facing a dragon hazard creature attack. Since ahunt dragons are hazard creature attacks, I suppose you could play BoCH and FSF whith them?
*** That is correct. -------- BoCH/FSF makes this creature attack the company in the start of every movement/hazard phase, if it is playable. Ahunt dragons, being long-events and not creatures, are always playable. So it will attack the company every turn, even if it stays at a haven?
*** When using Foes Shall Fall or Bring our Curses Home with an ahunt dragon, the attack will only occur if the company is in a region where the attack would normally occur. For instance, if a company is at a haven, the ahunt dragon would not attack. -------- Even though the CRF states that "You cannot target an opponent's character or resources with your own resources." , you must be able to target an opposing character with Malady, right?
*** Since the card is a minion resource released two expansions before ME:WH, and the card implicitly says that you may target a hero character with it, A Malady Without Healing is an exception to the rules, and can target an opponent's character. Also note that this doesn't restrict you from playing A Malady Without Healing on your own characters. -------- My opponent had played No Strangers at This Time on Dol Amroth (after successfully recruiting the Knights, of course). Before he could transform it into a Wizardhaven, however, I managed to put down a Heart Grown Cold. How do these two cards interact?
So HGC forces my opponent to replace the hero Dol Amroth with the minion version. But it's tapped, so then it would go to the discard pile. At this point, would No Strangers kick in and prevent the switcharoo, or would it watch helplessly as Dol Amroth becomes a minion site, which it can no longer target (thus causing its own discard and the loss of Dol Amroth for the cycle)?
*** No Strangers at This Time prevents a tapped hero site from being removed from play by Heart Grown Cold. -------- the errata list tells us, that this long winter does not tap a site permanently. but when is the site untapped?
immediatedly when long winter is gone (long-event phase)? or during the next untap-phase, after long winter is gone??
*** Philip Carroll cleared this up as follows. His words are my words, in this case: Did it really say "permanently"? Where did you find the ruling? The CoL errata listing says this: "Long Winter will not continually keep sites tapped, it is only applied once to each site each turn."
This means that if you untap a site somehow during the site phase, Long Winter doesn't kick in again and retap the site before you can do anything. -------- Let us suppose that Doors of Night and Morgul Night are in play. I move my company of thuggish minions to Lorien, planning all sorts of gooey mischief. My opponent, seeking to rain Elf-Lords down upon my little head, plays a Withered Lands on a convenient Shadow-land in the site path. When WL resolves, it has created two wildernesses. Does Morgul Night then bring the shadow down upon them before he can key his Elvish pain, or is Morgul Night like Long Winter, whose effects only occur once a turn?
*** Morgul Night's effects are applied only once, when the site path is revealed, so the Withered Lands would create two wildernesses successfully. -------- I do believe this gets us all caught up with the difficult questions that I've put off.
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