From: Chad Martin <chad@t...> Date: Tue Oct 8, 2002 2:27 am Subject: [NetRep] Rulings Digest #41
Can a Fallen-wizard use hero resources to modify the influence check against a minion faction, and vice versa?
*** Yes. Cards that modify an influence check target the check itself, which has no alignment, hero or minion. -------- Re: Prowess of Age I would like to know how the timing works this card. The idea is that I would like to cancel a card (like Concealment) that cancels my dragon attack, but if none are played, then I would like to use this card to give +1 prowess (or more) to the attack.
Is there a way for the Hazard Opponent to wait until the attack can NOT be canceled, but before strikes are assigned?
*** No. According to the CRF and past NetRep rulings, there is time before each attack and each strike to do things that are otherwise legal. This applies to each player, so there's no time where an attack-affecting hazard could be played that an attack-affecting resource cannot be played in response. -------- Can you tap to test a ring in response to a hazard creature being played on you?
*** Sure. -------- My minion opponent kills my Radagast in CvCC. Does,
(a) I lose 5 points; (b) He gains 5 points; or (c) Both?
*** Option A above is correct. -------- Do "Dragon ahunt manifestation" and "Spider of the Morlat permanent event attack" override the following card effect?
Stealth,Sneakin',Down Down to the Goblin-town,etc.
These cards only prohibit "Play of hazard creatures"
This does not prevent playing long event or permanent event.
Or Dragon ahunt attacks are just considered as played creature attack? How about Morlat?
*** Attacks caused by hazard events are not considered playing a hazard creature. -------- Does Minion player get kill marshaling point by defeating Fallen wizard orc/troll character in CvCC?
*** Yes. -------- When a creature has "attacker chooses defending character" ability, Attacker can also choose alleis for the target, right?
*** As long as the ally is not restricted from participating in the combat, yes. -------- What happens if you combine the _short-event_ Quiet lands (to turn a shadow-hold into ruins) and _permanent-event_ Rebuild the Town (turns a ruin into a border-hold)? Since Quiet lands is a short-event, it would be discarded at the end of the current turn. Would Rebuild the Town be discarded since there no longer was a ruin to rebuild, or would it remain in play as stated on the card?
*** Rebuild the Town would stay in play, since there is nothing stating that it would be discarded in this situation. -------- isnīt it the same with similar card-combinations? for example if there are the doors of night in play and daelomin is played on a company. because of the doors daelomin may be attacking a company moving through the withered heath. so if one plays twilight to cancel the doors, daelomin is still attacking in that region.
*** This is incorrect because the effect that causes Daelomin to attack checks for proper conditions (in this case, Doors of Night being in play) at the declaration and resolution of the effect. If Doors of Night is not in play when the effect causing the attack resolves (due to Twilight), the effect is cancelled. -------- once a card is in play after meeting the conditions for playing it, these conditions need not stay in play for keeping that card in play too. is that right?
*** Generally, yes, unless, as with hazard long events and The Will of Sauron, there is card text that overrides this generalization. Don't confuse this with the previous example, where the necessary conditions disappear before the effect resolves. -------- What is the deal with items that have maximum prowess or body?
*** Prowess and body bonuses and maximums from weapons, armor, shields and helmets are applied first, in whatever order the controller desires, then other bonuses apply in whatever order the controller chooses. -------- Are there any rules for telling your opponent what sort of deck (wizard/ringwraith/fallen wizard/balrog) you play with, before choosing a deck to play?
*** According to the Council of Lorien tournament policy, you may bring two decks of the same alignment (Hero, Minion, Fallen-Wizard or Balrog) to a tournament. One deck is for use against Hero opponents, and the other is for use against Minion and Balrog opponents. You may choose which deck is used against Fallen-Wizards, but the deck so chosen must not change throughout the duration of the tournament.
Note that certain councils and tournaments may not strictly adhere to the Council of Lorien policy. -------- Say I'm playing Fallen-wizard, and for some reason I need to retrieve a character from my discard pile. I have a Smoke Rings in hand. Which of the following is true?
1) I can recycle any character with my Smoke Rings; 2) I can only recycle any hero character; or 3) I can only recycle any non-Orc, non-Troll character.
*** Number 3 above is correct. -------- Am I allowed to discard a Thrall of the Voice on a 6-mind character during my organization phase (to lower my SP in the face of looming badness), or would that be considered "playing" a 6-minder?
*** The character is already in play, so as long as you are not otherwise restricted from discarding Thrall of the Voice, you may do so in this case. -------- An attack can be canceled before strikes are assigned, and a strike can be canceled before the dice are rolled, but what about reducing strikes?
For example, GoM is in play and I have a Cave-drake played on my company. My opponent targets a buff character and a whimpy character. I decided to resolve the first strike with the buff character, who defeats the strike. I then play DQ, reducing the # of strikes to one. I get the kill points, right? If no, why not?
*** Consider the following response from Wim Heemskerk official:
Changing the number of strikes must be done before strikes are assigned.
CRF, Turn Sequence Rulings, M/H phase, combat, attack: "Any effect that would change the number of strikes for an attack may not be played after strikes are assigned. This includes cards that have other additional effects, and cards that only indirectly change the number of strikes." -------- so what about reducing the prowess of the whole attack (for example black arrow). it would be logical (at least in my logic), that such an effect must also take place before strikes are assigned. but i couldnīt find anything in the crf.
*** An effect that states that it reduces the prowess of an attack must be played before the strikes are assigned. -------- Re: Pallando the Soul-Keeper My opponent discards Baduila at my new site - I discard Pallando - what happens? My guess is that Baduila gets eliminated, but is that so?
*** Yes, Baduila gets eliminated. -------- A company is attacked by a Barrow-wight and the character carrying the Star-glass is already tapped. Is there time to untap the character (say, with Hundreds of Butterflies) and then tap the Starglass to cancel the attack?
*** Yes, there is time to perform the above before the attack begins. -------- When he entered the site, I used a Cave-drake for the automatic-attack, and he tried to cancel it with Leaflock.
Framsburg's text says that the creature in question is considered in *all* ways to be the site's auto-attack. So is it still considered a hazard (and thus vulnerable to Leaflock's ability) or not?
*** The Cave-drake is considered an automatic attack and not a hazard, so Leaflock could not cancel it with his ability. -------- Please note that the NetRep team is still discussing what the word "any" means. I will present a ruling on this issue next Sunday, with any luck.
Chad Martin chad@t... Official Council of Elrond NetRep http://www.mdi.net/~chscable/elrond.htm Assisted by: Nigel Buckle, Wim Heemskerk and Brian Wong