From: Chad Martin <chad@t...> Date: Mon Jun 24, 2002 5:56 am Subject: [NetRep] Rulings Digest #32
If one player has Strider out, can another player play Aragorn?
*** No. Except for Dragons, you may not have more than one manifestation of a given thing in play at a time. -------- If at the character draft one player reveals Strider while the other player reveales Aragorn simultaneously, I asume the same happens as when both players would have revealed the same card, isn't it?
*** Yes. -------- Can the Witch King or any other Nazgul be in play twice? - Once as revealed Ringwraith and once as Hazard?
*** No. If a Nazgul is in play when the corresponding Ringwraith is played, the Nazgul is discarded. It is not legal to play a Nazgul if the corresponding Ringwraith is in play. -------- For Ride Against the Enemy, can you revel a unique character that is already in play?
*** Yes. Revealing a card does not put it in play. -------- The card just says to reveal the character, and there are no restrictions on reveling a unique manifestation, but if the attack ends up being defeated, then there is a problem, as there is still a character in play.
*** If a player defeats an attack caused by Ride Against the Enemy, all manifestations of that character that are in play are discarded. -------- Also I assume you can use agents for this card if you can play agents as characters.
*** You assume correctly. -------- Under the CRF it says, "Hazards have no effect on the attack, and any resource effects that benefit the attack are cancelled. The attack may still be cancelled. " Does this mean that if I have Clear Skies in play, and Ride Against the Enemy is played on me, then the Clear Skies will be canceled and I no longer get the bonus?
*** No. If both you and the attack get a benefit from a resource like Clear Skies, two resource effects occur: one for you and one for the attack. Due to this CRF ruling, the one for the attack is cancelled. -------- Also the "other cards have no affect on this attack" clause seems to make canceling the attack impossible, as well as making the other resource cards that affect attacks (such as Black Arrow, Old Thrush, Motionless Among the Slain, etc.) unplayable.
*** The CRF ruling for RAtE clarifies the card text to allow the attack to be cancelled. -------- What happens if Elrond is used to Ride Against the Enemy, but he is killed? Does the person using Elrond in this fashion get -3MP's for him being Eliminated? Or does the person killing him get 3MP's and that is that, as no one actually had Elrond in play.
*** Part of being eliminated is being in play first. If Elrond is killed due to RAtE, the hazard player would not receive the MP penalty printed on Elrond. -------- I have one company at a FW haven during the org phase. I want one or more characters to be at a hero or minion version of the site during the org phase. Do I:
1. Split the company and put out a different version of the same site in the org phase for the new company (no movement involved). (Note - the reason I say split the companies is to avoid the company composition rule that prevents you from effectively untapping havens. This is a side issue that I don't want to cloud the discussion).
or
2. Place the different version site out during the org phase, reveal it during the movement/hazard phase, and move to it (movement with no regions).
*** Option 1 above is the correct play. There has been some debate on this, so let me explain my reasoning. The MEWH rule book states that Fallen-wizards may use wizardhavens instead of the hero or minion version. The ruling precedence has been that the word "may" indicates that the action is optional. Also, you may not move to a site that you already occupy. Alignments of cards do not mean that they are different entities. A hero Mithril Coat and a minion Mithril Coat are still the same Mithril Coat, but the card's alignment is different. Same goes for sites. So you have the option of using a hero or minion site or the wizardhaven version. This does not mean that you may have both the hero and minion versions in play at the same time. That is illegal. -------- I have one company at a wizard-haven and one company at a hero or minion version of the site. Can I transfer an item from one company to the other (e.g., are the companies at the same site)?
*** Due to the reasoning above, yes, you can transfer the item. -------- an unexpected outpost: if doors of night is in play, is it allowed to bring one hazard from the discard pile and a second from the sideboard into the play deck?
*** Yes. -------- goblin-faces: is it possible to enhnce that attack with orc AND men enhancers? for example what happens, if there is rank upon rank AND minions stir in play??
*** Goblin-faces may be enhanced as both orcs and men. If hazard effects are in play to do so, the effects are cumulative. -------- stone of erech: is it possible that i play stone of erech, when the opponent has influenced the men of lamedon?
*** CRF, Rulings by Term, Active Conditions: Your opponent's resources may be the active conditions for your resources, but may not be the targets for your resources.
This means you may play Stone of Erech if your opponent has the Men of Lamedon in play. -------- neekerbreekers: this card seems to anticipate the later rule of detainment attacks, but there is one difference: if defeated, the opponent (as wizard-player) gets the mp. is that correct?
*** Just because a card smells like a detainment attack, doesn't necessarily mean it is one. Hero players will get MPs for defeating Neeker-Breekers.
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