From:  Chad Martin <chad@t...> 
Date:  Mon Apr 29, 2002  3:34 am
Subject:  [NetRep] Rulings Digest #27
[Editors note: accidentally two digests were published as #27. This is the first, now labeled #27a]
In some cards i've read a character can be discarded or eliminated. When
each of those happen? what's the game difference?
*** Characters are discarded when a hero character misses a corruption check
by 1 or 2, 
when you don't have enough influence for your in play characters at the end of
your 
organization phase and any new characters played have been returned to your
hand, or if a 
card effect requires it. Characters are eliminated when they miss a corruption
check by 
more than 2, miss a body check, or if a card effect requires it. Discarded
characters are 
placed in the discard pile, and can be played again by either player. 
Eliminated 
characters are placed out of play, and may not be played again by any player if
the 
character was unique.
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Creature-Hazards have two type of symbols on the side. First the white
background symbols, which represent regions. You can use the creature to attack
a company moving though one of those region types. What about the other? the
symbol with no background? I think is to attack a company staying at a site, not
moving. Is it?
*** The symbols without white backgrounds are site types. Creatures can be
keyed to a 
site if a company occupies that site type and is not moving, or if a company is
moving to 
that site type.
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>*** At the beginning of your end of turn phase:
>1. Return any on-guard cards that are in play back to your hand.
>2. If you had no on-guard cards in play, you may discard one card
>from your hand.
>3. Draw up or discard down to your hand size, usually 8.
Can't seem to find your step #2 in the rules or the CRF.
Are you sure about this Chad?
*** No. Here's the proper sequence to follow:
1. Return any on-guard cards that are in play back to your hand.
2. Discard one card from your hand, if you wish.
3. Draw up or discard down to your hand size, usually 8.
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we couldn't agree on one thing.
CRF 15.1. (motivation):
Under Site Phase, General: You may only play a free minor item after playing an
ally, faction, or item that taps the site.
Under Rulings by term, Items: The "free" minor item may only be played
immediately after playing the resource that taps that site.
Does this mean, that:
1) the minor item is playable after a resource that potentially taps a site
(e.g. after
Noble Hound on a tapped B) ?
-- this is what the sentence is exactly saying --
2) the resource have to necessary tap the site to make the minor item playable?
-- this is how some interpret the rule (here) --
*** The site has to be tapped by playing the appropriate resource for a free
minor item 
to be playable during that site phase, so number 2 is correct.
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Re: Winds of Wrath
Does the site path for the moving company change? E.g: A company going to Isles
of the 
dead that Live is blown to Urlurutsu Nurn (taken from this list), can hazards
be played 
keyed to nurn (or to the dark-domain)?. If the site path changes, which player
decides the 
regions the company moves through?
*** The site's site path and destination site changes to the new site, but the
company's 
site path stays the same. You may key hazards to the region that the new site
is in.
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The Dragon Ahunt cards say the attack is a hazard creature attack, but this
does not allow them to be hunted, as The Hunt can only target a "hazard
creature card" and the Ahunts are Long Events, Right?
*** Correct.
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Re: Bring our Curses Home and Foes Shall Fall
For both of these cards, does the placing the creature "off to the side"
affect the rest of the attack? Or does it just mean that the creature is not
discarded?
*** The effects of Bring our Curses Home and Foes Shall Fall do not affect the
attack 
directly. In other words, the full attack is dealt with, no matter if a
character is 
eliminated or not.
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Re: Bring our Curses Home and Foes Shall Fall
Also, the Dragon Ahunt cards count as a creature attack, so these cards can
be played on a company facing an Ahunt. Will the Ahunt be placed off to the
side as well? If so, will the company ever be attacked by it? If the company
can be attacked by the Ahunt, then the company would be attacked at the
start of each M/H phase if the creature is playable, so technically speaking
the company will be attacked every turn no matter where they are going, as
Ahunts are always playable (Unless eliminated or already in play).
*** The Ahunt card is placed off to the side if either card is played on the
Ahunt and a 
character is elimated. The company will be attacked during every
movement/hazard phase, 
unless another effect makes the Ahunt unplayable.
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Re: Bring our Curses Home and Foes Shall Fall
Also what will happen if both cards are played on a single creature?
Will :
1) The creature get placed with the first successful card only, and the
other one is discarded as there is no creature on it?
2) The creature get placed with either one (if both are successful) and the
other one is discarded as there is no creature on it?
3) Or will it be considered as "off to the side" with both cards?
If #3 then the creature will attack twice when ever it is able to attack,
and both cards will be discarded if the creature is discarded, Right?
*** Number 2 above is correct. The hazard player chooses which one gets the
creature.
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My question is non-moving company at a site that is normally in a shadow-land.
In the Heart of his Realm is in play at the start of the m/h phase.
they want to marvel's told In the Heart of his Realm, I respond with
Awaken the Earth's fire, to turn said shadowland into dark domain...
So since i'm targetting the site's sitepath with Awaken Earth's fire,
because there is no company site path, they are now considered to be
at a site in a dark domain, sages lose sage skill, and marvel's told
fizzles. right?
*** Correct.
Chad Martin
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