Strength Bonuses ... how do they stack?

melkor_morgoth75 · Post by **melkor_morgoth75** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:58 am

Hi all,

let's consider this situation:
i have Celeborn with an item giving me +2 strength to a maximum of 8. Also in my company (where Celeborn is) i have 2 fellowship cards. How do strength bonuses work in such way?

Does Celeborn has 8 or 10 strength?

mm75

Konrad Klar · Post by **Konrad Klar** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:17 am

Modifiers of prowess from weapons are applied first. Rest in order choosen by character's controlling player.

melkor_morgoth75 · Post by **melkor_morgoth75** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:34 am

Thanks, that what i remembered

mm75

thorondor · Post by **thorondor** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:51 pm

Konrad Klar wrote:Modifiers of prowess from weapons are applied first. Rest in order choosen by character's controlling player.

isnt it all items, not only weapons?

Konrad Klar · Post by **Konrad Klar** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:05 pm

Exact quotes are:

Lidless Eye, Combat, The Strike Sequence wrote:Clarification: The prowess modifier and maximum for a weapon is applied to a character before any other modifiers are applied. For example, the Lieutenant of Dol Guldur has a base prowess of 7 and a Broad-headed Spear (+2 prowess to a maximum of 8) he starts with a prowess of 8 before any other modifiers are applied.

Similarly, the body modifier and maximum for a shield, armor, or helmet is applied before any other modifiers are applied.

CRF, Turn Sequence, Combat, Strike Sequence wrote:Non-item prowess bonuses are applied in the order the player controlling the character decides.

I must agree, phrase "Non-item prowess bonuses" is unclear.
It suggests, that all items (not only weapons) follow a different set of rules.

Leon · Post by **Leon** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:36 am

I believe that weapons are the only items with a maximum to prowess, so that is the only one for which order of bonuses matters.

Wacho · Post by **Wacho** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:38 pm

Not true.  There are a few other items that have a prowess limitation.  High Helm and The One Ring are two examples.  Also some weapons have body modifiers which are limited to a max value, for example Valiant Sword.

Konrad Klar · Post by **Konrad Klar** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:25 pm

If so, then CRF entry is even more unclear.
It says generally about non-items (not only about non-weapons), and particulary about prowess (not mentioning body).